and i felt threatened and i was afraid i was about to be shot. that's the problem with the "stand your ground" law. is that all you have to say, i thought i saw a gun? clearly, no. once you get into a court of law, there's going to have to be evidence. there are witnesses out there. i'm sure there's a security camera out there. they are going to be combing every single minute of that footage to see if there was anything that could be remotely interpreted as a gun. >> what if a gun is found later? what if the videotape shows a gun? >> what that means is, okay, he's got an argument for either "stand your ground" -- and let's remember, "stand your ground" is a motion you file before trial. so that's a way where you go in front of the judge, not a jury. "stand your ground" is when you get in front of a judge and say, i had every right to defend myself, there was a gun, they were threadening me. and then the court makes that decision. if that doesn't work, you can still raise self-defense at trial and argue to a jury. >> i think i know where you're going to go, where some people say with the trayvon martin case, had you not been following him or didn't pursue him, this wouldn't have happened. had you not said, turn your music down and butt your nose into a place where -- this would not have happened, even with a gun. does that factor into this at all?